Part 4 – Saptarishis Astrology Interviews Dr Suresh Chandra Mishra

We have a follow-up question. Regarding birth of twins, we have seen time difference of 2-5 minutes. Both might not necessarily have birth mark on same body part. So, in that case, how to rectify the charts? One such case came to me in year 2003/2004, that lady was astrology lover, my son was studying medical sciences there. I was invited there, so, she showed me her daughter’s kundali to me, it was cases of twins, with a twin brother. I remember date but for that Lagna, it had Capricorn navamsa, with possibly Taurus lagna. That girl was fair-skinned. Twin brother, they told me was born 2 minutes later. I predicted he must be of wheatish face complexion. Mother and the girl were both fair-skinned and even father had fair complexion. They asked me how did I know? She had studied astrology from Bhartiya vidya Bhavan and was in Bangalore, same place where my son had gone for his education. I told her that it’s decided from Navamsa. Navamsa changes face complexion. He had Aquarius navamsa. Aquarius gives wheatish complexion while Capricon navamsa is bright, reflecting. Why do you see anything as black? Anything appears transparent because rays can cross that material and return back to eyes. If anything stops light from getting through, that will appear dark. Aquarius’s sign is of a person carrying empty pot. So, Aquarius has wheatish complexion. Then, that boy came there in few minutes, he was wheatish only. They asked me how. I told them to use the ‘chandra samek navamsa varnah’ rule and one can find out. Complexion itself tells you, no need to even check for birth marks. There’s one chapter ‘Vishesh lagnadhyay’ meaning special ascendants. He said special ascendants can help in such complex cases. One is Bhava Lagna, then Hora lagna, after that Ghati lagna, after that Vighati lagna / Pal lagna. Bhava lagna changes in 2 hours, ghati lagna in 24 minutes, Hora lagna in 1 hour, vighati lagna in 2 minutes (5 Pal). and it is same order in which the sun is moving. On sunrise, lagna has same degree as what the sun is having since both are exactly at eastern horizon. For 24 hours, we divide them in 12 rashis. so, 2 hour per rashi which is called Bhava lagna. For Hora lagna which is of 1 hour, we say we have 24 hora lagna in 24 hrs then. 60 ghati lagna in 24 hrs. Vighati lagna is of 2 minutes i.e 30 vighati lagnas in 1 hour, 720 vighati lagnas in a day. So, on the basis of vighati lagna, we can differentiate betweeen the twins. Vighati lagna and Ghati lagna need to evaluated in same way as basic lagna. Then, vighati lagna will be considered as native’s birth lagna. Can we treat it in this way that for analyzing twins horoscopes… First thing is if Navamsa are different then we are contended. Navamsa changes in about 12-15 minutes. If Navamsa is same, then look for ghati lagna. If Ghati lagna is also same, then check vighati lagna. If, unfortunately, vighati lagna is also same; It changes in 2 minutes. If difference in time of twins is of 1 minute, then what should we do? For that Parashar ji wrote, check the shashtiamsa chart(D-60). Consider that as the birth chart of the native. D-60 changes in 1 minute. so, we can go to this level. Less than 1 minute of difference can not be between twins. So, everything has been set systematically. If we keep on moving on the path shown by Shashtra, then all things will become easy. As soon we go astray, we will be lost. If we have highway(freeway) in front of us, why not use it? And Parashar has said that from Shashtiamsa(D-60) we can look at all aspects. Right? Yes, if needed, you can look at everything from the Shashtiamsa(D-60). As and when required. And when did the need arise? since we were not to differentiate between the twins charts; Since those twins are two separate identities. How will you out lagna for two then. It came up as challenge in Jyotish. Therefore, he wrote it very carefully that look for everything from Shashtiamsa. That can be used as lagna chart for predicting results. After thinking all aspects, all ifs and buts, Rishis have decided these rules. It’s we who are not able to remember them /recall them /understand their applications. This is what causes all dilemmas, otherwise there is no shortcoming in Shashtras. Mishra ji, we have talked about who is the right candidate for teaching jyotish. If we talk further on this, then there are some people who study for some time and leave, some only research, some are very good at predicting. Some contribute their life in publishing, then there are those also who have done everything in Jyotish. Please tell us the combinations (related to astrology) for predictions/research/publishing? Basically, those who are born in malefic rashi lagna, they have inclination towards astrology; which is sun’s lagna, mars’ lagna, Shani’s lagna and malefic mercury’s lagna. Mercury is considered malefic when it is posited with malefics. In that case, Gemini and Virgo lagna people also show inclinations towards jyotish So, Aries lagna, Gemini lagna (conditionally), Cancer and Leo lagna, Virgo lagna (conditionally), Libra lagna if involves some specific combinations and aquarius lagna – primarily these show inclination towards jyotish. So basically lagna of malefic planets, malefic mercury, Sun and moon rashi lagna. It must have combinations of malefic planets. For planetary positions, it was clearly said – 1, 5, 9 and 12. If these houses, directly or strongly, have connection of natural malefics, then those will some good work in Jyotish. The more malefic effect on these houses.. So, mars, saturn and rahu are impacting these houses, then these will do concrete work in astrology. They are good mathematician also, and good in Phalit too. Parahar ji specifically wrote about upagrahas, we have 2 upagrahas – Dhoom and Gulika. If Dhoom is placed in these houses (1,5,9,12), then these people also show inclination and contribute in jyotish. He stressed even more on Gulika, that if Gulika Or Gulika house lord or Gulika navamsa lord is placed/connected to these houses (1,5,9,12), then those will have good contribution towards jyotish. Then, it was seen from Atmakaraka and Amatyakaraka also. If Venus/Jupiter is the Atmakaraka and with them, there is connection of malefics in Navamsa kundali, then they also become good astrologers. Karakamasa kundli is same as Navamsa kundali. Some people are confused on this. I will explain that later, but in Navamsa kundali, if there is connection of Venus/Jupiter(as Atmakaraka) with malefics, then those become good astrologers. If you want you can use some examples and find out. Ok. This you have talked about mathematics and Phalit, both? Yes, because you can’t do phalit with mathematics. Pundits in temple can also do Phalit. In India, every nook and corner, you will find vaidya (ayurvedic/traditional doctors) and Jyotish, in big numbers. As they say that when a ball is hit in the playground, it lands in the house of Vaidya or Jyotish only, so many of them we have. I am not talking about astrologers of these kinds but those who have done considerable contribution to Jyotish. I am talking about those who have changed things, who are A-grade astrologers. In this context, if we look at kundali of Mr. Surya Narayan Rao, let’s discuss that. The lagna of a malefic is not here but it has a very clear-cut and powerful combination. 1st house doesn’t have any malefic, 5th house has Mars, 9th doesnt’ have malefic but 12th has mercury with Rahu. Is it mercury? 12th has Rahu and Gulika. Ok. 12th has Rahu. So, here 5th has mars and 12th has rahu which completes the preliminary combination. Secondly, if we see Gulika, it is 12th house, Gulika is an extreme malefic upagraha. Gulika’s rashi lord i.e. Aries lord, mars is in 5th house. So, Mars also being Gulika’s rashi lord becomes double malefic in 5th house. Gulika’s Navamsa lord is Venus which is 9th. Venus will also be treated as malefic being Gulika’s navamsa lord. 5,9 and 12 houses, we see a clear-cut combination here. One additional thing needed to be said here, in this chart, Mars is also atmakaraka, which is also connected to Gulika and is also vargottama. It makes it such a kundali that he was sure to be milestone in whichever field he chose. Such a kundali whose work will be long remembered. I understand he started an astrological magazine and which is still coming out. I guess his grand children are still working for that. If we look at chart of B.V.Raman, his major contribution in astrology was through publications. How to look at this publishing angle in his chart? B.V.Raman ji’s atmakaraka is moon, Aquarius ascendant, shatabhisha birth nakshatra. Aquarius ascendant, so, basic requirement is satisfied. It’s lord Shani is posited in 4th with moon. I am considering 4th house since it has Gulika. So, Saturn, a natural malefic and lagna lord is connected to atmarkaraka moon and Gulika. Although this is 4th house, but because of Gulika involvement, we don’t consider the house factor. Despite it being in 4th house, combination worked very well for B.V.Raman. Atmakaraka moon is with Gulika in Navamsa too, with mercury. Mercury itself makes one mathematician. And mercury is malefic here, since it is sitting with Mars. Malefic mercury making a connection with moon in Karakamsa or Navamsa kundali, this also makes one contribute well to Astrology. And regarding publications….. Regarding publications, for popularizing jyotish, he had done great work; since Mercury is also involved there. 10th house, as per jyotish is also house of travel. 4th house is of overseas. Main indicator planets are sitting in 4th house here. So, his contribution or publicity is more in overseas. So, he popularized jyotish in overseas. He has big contribution in raising awareness about Vedic astrology in the west. In 19th century, lots of Jyotishis were born who gave new directions to Jyotish. In those, at the top we have Mr. Venkatesh Shashtri ketkar. He was from Maharashtra state. After his name, we have ayanamsa called ketki ayanamsa, more popularly called chitrapaksha ayanamsa. Some people mistakenly call it as Lahiri ayanamsa also. That is basically Ketaki ayanamsa only. Ketkar ji devised it based on Chitrapaksha, Chitrapaksha is mentioned in Vedas too. Regarding Ayanamsa, he wrote one book, amongst many of his, based on which Panchangas are still being created. Its title was ‘Drik Ganit Panchanga’. For popularizing Drik Ganit, his name stands foremost. I have added his kundali in one of my books ‘Gehre paani paeth’. In that there’s one article for combinations needed for becoming an astrologer. I have discussed all this in details, there. Similarly, there was Shankar Balkrishna Dikshit – hailing from Maharashtra, his work in Jyotish will not be forgotten even 200 years from now. His book was a milestone in Jyotish. The way he wrote it was simply brilliant. It’s also being published in hindi nowadays, originally it was in Marathi language. He also wrote one book on Indian calendar, working with a westerner. That book was in Marathi, translated by Shivnath Jharkhandi. He wrote many other books too. I have also posted his kundali in one of my books. He says this himself that he was only a primary school headmaster. He says – I have learnt everything by reading books and self-study. His knowledge was incomparable. He knew astrology and astronomy, both, very well. After that Sudhakar Dwivedi from Hindu banaras college, Head of Department. His contributions, also, cannot be forgotten. Then, Bapudev shashtri, his kundali is also there in my book. The kundali of Lokmanya tilak, of Cancer lagna, I am not sure if I added that in my book or not, but his contributions were equally great. These were astrologers who created milestones. We could have discussed their kundalis too. But, I don’t have that book available with me, right now. Mishra ji, another question – For lifelong learning, what are books / publications / researches that a curios student must have? What do you recommend? Lot of books are there. BPHS is very detailed and a milestone. People after them, what they wrote was also called Hora Shashta. All of them mentioned that BPHS is very detailed, so, we are presenting the summary of that. Varahmihira also wrote that in Brihat-jataka. Before going for BPHS, one must read brihat-jataka of Varahmihira. It’s very popular in south India. The way he said explained and commented is simply great. It can be easily understood, but Varahmihira has put so many deep meanings into it that one can find many interpretations of it. But it’s in summarized form, only in 425/525 shlokas. Very beautifully putting all the nectar of BPHS in that. All the dashaphal principles have been compressed into 42 Shlokas. Like entire BPHS has been compressed into 425(I think) Shlokas. Brihat Jataka is something one should read daily like Geeta, since every shloka gives a new meaning when you read it again. The rules of Brihat jataka are easy to understand and have been told straight forward. They are irrefutable. We talked about this yesterday also. That Shloka that I had told you; in that Varahmihira has beautifully put the summary in a single shloka. Varahmihira had so much hold over Sanskrit that he could put different meanings in a single word. If students read the ‘Mangala charan’ of that, student will know what all needs to know/learn in jyotish. He has encrypted the whole content of a book in 4 lines so beautifully that it’s very difficult to decrypt it. In my own commentary on Brihat Jataka, I have discussed all those things, those different meanings. ‘Akshar Akshar se prakat goodh arth anmol’… I have titled it this way in my own commentary on Brihat jataka. Which books is that? In my own commentary on Brihat Jataka, I have written about these hidden meanings. When I had put a title to it, only one thing came in my mind – ‘Akshar Akshar se prakat, Goodh Arth anmol’. which means that not only words, but every letter of Brihat-jataka shlokas has a hidden meaning in it. Even ‘h’ or ‘ch’ letter in sanskrit, in this book, has a hidden meaning. So, Varahmihira presented it in concise, hidden and summarized manner. If BPHS is milk then Brihat Jataka is like butter of the milk. Students must taste it. After that, study Mantreshwar’s Phala deepika. Phala Deepika guides the students very well. If you want to go in further details, then Kalyan Verma’s Saravali. These 3 books are called brihat kadi(chain). If you read one of them, you will get this urge to read the Saravali. Phala deepika is bit easier, saravali is detailed while brihat jataka is deep with lot of hidden meanings. So, a mix of sweet, sour and salty. That enriches and completes the plate of the students. So, study it and have fun. You mentioned one shloka which should be used as mool mantra… That is the first shloka of Mangala charan. In Mangala charan, he has enlisted what all needs to be looked at. All the planets and rashis names are inherent there, look at all these and their relations. He was one who told us how the word ‘hora’ originated. Hora represents kaal (time). Remove ‘a’ and ‘tra’ from the word ‘ahoratra’, it become ‘hora’. It’s a sanskrit word and it means hour. That means hour/minute/seconds.. basically Jyotish is that shashta which quantifies/identifies time, not something which tells you the time. One that tell you the time that’s Ghadi (exact time at this point). Regarding Jyotish, Lagatha Rishi had said this in Vedanga Jyotish – I am sharing with you the knowledge how to identify the time, the knowledge of time, how will the tide of time change and which way will it change to. That is called Kaal-Shashtra. That is called jyotish. It’s not a mere device to tell you the time. So, study these 3 great books daily, the deeper you go, the more the pearls of Jyotish wisdom and knowledge, you will find. Even now, I have Brihat Jataka at one of my study places. I keep on reading it and every time, I feel, it shows a new meaning that I had not thought of earlier.

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