Why the World Is Still Fascinated with Astrology

Why the World Is Still Fascinated with Astrology


I’m Gavin Hanes and I’m a Scorpio astrology has been helping people figure out who they should be having sex with for the past four thousand years women born in June will find their greatest happiness under the signs of Capricorn and Libra one of their signs tell us about this I’m John Dee advising Elizabeth the first – Ronnie Reagan’s White House astrologer Joan Quigley it’s a global cult with its own superstars like us astrology sweetheart Susan Miller hello Scorpio I bet you don’t expect all the goodies that the universe has cooked up for you Oh South America’s Liberace of astrology Walter Mercado the legend is buck Phil the best psychics know are the best prices me I still had no idea who I should be having sex with single people seem like the easiest prey but perhaps a short course of astrology would help me resolve things if nothing else I could figure out why so many still found it so appealing astrology that is back in Britain given how the moon seems to be turning the color of blood here since brexit this seemed like a good place to start hunting omens to get a grip on the state of astrology today I’ve come to Chyzyk to meet a kind of astrologer Harrods would sell you Caroline Faulkner is Harrods in-house astrologer the one the shakes in the Russian oligarchs haven’t speed up when they run into a Leo going berserk for a little over 150 pounds an hour you too can indulge in herself created specialty of dynamic astrology which of course is better than astrology just sort of flopping about she also sells their own range of perfumes on the Harrods website a star sense and has helped in designing Astra nutritive skincare sessions for the likes of Dolce & Gabbana if it was good enough for the enemies of Elton John it must be good enough for me you’re the astrologer for Harrods I am I have worked with some international royalty I’ve worked with millionaires and I’ve worked with them people who have absolutely nothing so could you just talk me through maybe how we read our natal charts all you need to find out is your Sun Sign your rising sign which is determined by the time you were born and your moon sign needle charts are serious astrology based on place and time of birth they don’t just take into account the classic newspaper horoscopes Sun sign Taurus or whatever but also all the little fiddly planets rising and falling around it and you’re going to draw my chart today are you this is your your full chart here okay because you’ve got Sagittarius rising your rising sign governs your direct personality Carolina laid it on with an elegant gold encrusted Herod spoon she told me that I was wonderful creative an impish spirit by turns serious and playful that I should go after my dreams worry less and live more if you’ve got a good sense of timing but you can sometimes disempower people very quickly with your smarts okay yeah with me all great advice also available at a range of lower-cost motivational posters at her price per insight it was also great that she was smiling and buttering me up when she gave it but would cheap advice be any less effective in an age that has brought us the scientific wonders of the atom bomb and the face swap app what is the man in the streets still getting from astrology why is astrology not in a way it helps you make decisions if you read something about what will happen what should happen did you first become aware of a star sign when somebody said something about my star sign that I liked you know because you don’t believe in star signs unless somebody says oh yeah your star sign you guys rule like really really intelligent and then you’re like you know what I am intelligent star science do have a little bit truth to them I mean do you think there’s any point in it I think it’s a lot of a for comfort like I don’t have any direction in my life so I’m gonna read this and go with that do you know anyone who really believes in astrology most of my friends my family they believe in science they believe in God they believe in astrology they believe in most of things and I think it’s quite contradictory I think there’s anything wrong with doing something up is for fun I certainly wouldn’t take anything like that seriously you know like stones are healing hours or what the sky says about your future Caroline didn’t tell me that I’d meet a shaggy eccentric stranger in a moon Baddeck shirt but I still thought I’d keep my next appointment with Barry the 30 pounds a chart owner of the Covent Garden astrology shop come on out speak English yeah I speak astrology as I only spoke English I pulled up google translator my phone while he read in my charts what we need to do is though where the planets were when you were born and which way yes was facing so the first thing I see when I put up the chart Neptune is rising you had big pressure mode and you got huge secret but we know your emotional we know your deep you’re one of the most sensitive caring people in the world until you see yourself as the Guardian the custodian of an ancient knowledge then epsilon societies yet couldn’t always work out whether he was actually oblivious of others or maybe more connected than anyone but as he’s some Age of Aquarius very aggressively at me then told me about how he predicted his own mother’s death I figured whatever he was getting out of astrology it was pretty strong juice trained to be an astrologer even deep understanding of people’s psychology and what makes some work Barry was right I’d come across a range of astrologers in my research who were leveraging their understanding a psychology by working as astrological life coaches a lot of positive stuff in the astrology this week let me tell you love and money are the same energy and it’s really appropriate to talk about it when we’re in Taurus and Scorpio when Neptune hits the Saturn it might feel like the rug is being pulled out from underneath you I was having ongoing problems with my head as well as my really shitty mercury so I made contact with a woman who could help me balance them all at 200 pounds a session she was even more expensive than Harrods and a hundred miles from London but visiting just had to answer I drove down impossibly long before psychotherapy astrology was one of the oldest lenses by which humanity could focus on the self I’m here to see an astro life coach what sorts of problems two people come to you with Oh everything from relationship breakups to work problems to existential crisis and what you generally advise them I never give advices well got my charts to hand and let’s for summation wisdom out okay is there an area that you’re dealing with at the moment in your life that you would like more clarity or perspective once I pondered whether now was a good time to tell her about how my head had led me into hanging around outside Lamaze classes looking for single pregnant women I could seduce Berta I decided to keep it vague um I mean I think I struggle with commitment that’s what I see in your chart hey your scorpio is a freedom a freedom lover can we just pause for a second have your emotions ever led you to do something um wise can’t say they have I mean what are we talking here that’s very right can we pause again sure you’re a genie was sort of regular tricky one I’m not a tricky you’re a tricky one I’ve been yeah Villa Rosser I need I need to sort of thrash it out for a bit longer to to get to because what’s happening is recycling a little bit which is fine Helen seem to be leading me deeper and deeper into my problems but never quite got round to leading me out by the end I was confused she was confused I wasn’t even sure when problems entirely were anymore and I felt like maybe combining astrology and life coaching was about as good an idea as combining assault rifle hunting and DMT despite my best intent every version of the genre I’d so far investigated had felt like interacting with a slightly calamitous children’s magician so I decided that maybe a man with a really big telescope could clear this up once and for all astronomy sounds a lot like astrology but according to dr. John Mason curator at the South Downs planetarium they’re actually very different what’s your star sign you tell me I’m seeing who is a Leo kind of guy you’re totally wrong Scorpio now you’re probably like a Libra and Leo or Scorpio well you’ve picked three now and you’re wrong in all through Aquarius yeah you’re wrong on four is it true that balls are flaming gas millions of light years away are influencing my love life no the actual processes themselves going on millions of light years away I’m not going to be affecting you physically do you think astrology could be useful even if it isn’t true I don’t think it’s useful um I don’t as a scientist believe you can predict the future and I don’t think that people should be planning their lives on the basis of something that is mumbo-jumbo I know there are people who won’t get out of bed until they’ve read this stars for the day all the week or whatever to me that’s a tragedy and a fab thing okay you mentioned tests there have been tests done about the the proof or otherwise of astrology do you know a few there have been a few scientific dominations done on looking at people’s characteristics and trying to match them to some sign astrology you show me any physical experiment that’ll pick them up and then I might believe in them and the fact is that all the scientific tests that have astrology that have been done have come up with nothing dr. Mason was right of course and he could prove it with science astrology could only prove it with the far off arcs of planets but then for all the esoteric wingdings I’ve been subjected to it was at least true that astronomy couldn’t tell us why we were here any more than astrology could I’d learned that maybe even the smartest amongst us needs to stop being so smart sometimes and a little bit more magic into our lives it may not be reasonable Camela be rational but look around you when was the universe ever reasonable or rational for all our LinkedIn endorsements we’re still Apes swirling on a rock we’ve come a long way but despite our smugness there’s still a beauty to be had in remembering that genetically we’re exactly the same life-form who gazed up in baffled or stars some four thousand years ago and made up stories about them

100 Comments

  • Stephanie Sanchez-DeLong says:

    This is some white agenda propaganda. Anything that deadens the human soul and keeps them from the truth! Stay woke!

  • HibHab69 says:

    Astrology is fucking retarded.

  • Alice Schuermans says:

    Well…basically you mock astrology … isn't journalism supposed to be investigating instead of judging…

  • Yaser Nor says:

    9:49 Full stop .

  • Bruna Santos says:

    "women of june = capricorn and libra" O DAMN HE'S RIGHT

  • Jimmy Martinez says:

    This guy is probably the most scum baggy and douche baggy host for vice. Ive seen him in several vice docs and in every one, hes a total piece of shite.. In fact, vice itself is becoming shite with its stupid biases without actually honoring what its exploring. Might as well become regular news.

  • Marc Bell says:

    There's nothing silly about astrology and dumb asses don't realize that the Reagan's astrologer got Reagan to stop talking about "the evil empire" and meet with Gorbachev. No astrologer says the constellations are affecting us. Not how it works, and the signs didn't change because western astrologers use tropical not sidereal model since ancient Greek times.

  • CaptainSubliminal says:

    Astrology has depth which this video doesn鈥檛 explain #logicbias

  • Zapper Zapped says:

    Western astrology is severely limited to just about sex. While eastern astrology emphasizes more on other important aspects in life such as education, career, family, relationships (friends, business partners, etc.), health, wealth, and loads of other things.

  • bipul kalita says:

    neural networks are better than horoscope

  • Audichya Arya says:

    come to India once u will be amazed and can get the deeper knowledge about astro ….by the help of vedic astrology which is the oldest one 馃槉

  • Ramay James says:

    My question is how old is your soul?

  • charlie says:

    i swear on snapchat vice puts up daily horoscopes

  • charlie says:

    how come if i find a video trying to support the idea of astrology all the comments are belittling but if i find a video trying to disprove astrology all the comments are saying the astrology has backing. lol help i just want to know what to believe

  • AlwayzRyt says:

    All the idiots that debunk astrology never really studied it. Astrology is the language of gods. Not everyone is meant to understand it.

  • Jade W says:

    I'm nothing like my astrology sign. It's simply not true.

  • Corey Grandmaison Archive says:

    Astrology lets the intelligent know how blind you are and how you can be suckered

  • Corey Grandmaison Archive says:

    Please more videos like this!!!!

  • phennec says:

    Scientific tests can't prove God either yet people still believe. Science is great I love it, but there is more mystery to our existence than science can see or prove.

  • slightlyhard says:

    naw, that is all bs but the chinese horoscope is a 100% acurate and not to mention tarot cards

  • slightlyhard says:

    cheaper advice would be less effective because we tend to value something more when we paid a shit ton of money (or hurt, loss, health, etc. ) for it (this applies to technology as well as stones and friends). Lierally we appreciate the things more that we paid for, it doesn't matter how or what we pay but as long we feel like we have to sacrifice something to get it, and the more we have to sacrifice the more valuable the thing we get in ixchange seems to us

  • Daniel Lipton says:

    Stars are just huge balls of plasma and gas and say it with me don鈥檛 have any affect on you.

  • Mako says:

    He seems like a dick lmao but he鈥檚 funny. From what I watched on this series so far it seems like he doesn鈥檛 believe in any of this spirituality (what he鈥檇 call nonsense). Which is understandable because there are people around the world are making it seem like crap, when in reality it鈥檚 not all nonsense. All of this exist but it鈥檚 not to the degree people are turning it up to, and this is what鈥檚 making people disbelieve. But the information he鈥檚 putting out is necessary because spiritual people need to see the rebuttal.

  • Gia Gia says:

    I don鈥檛 like the condescending tone of the journalist

  • Cutie Malu says:

    I'm a cancer and I act NOTHING like cancer, I'm not really caring (sorry) and many other things, I kinda act more like a gemini or libra lmfao, but ion believe in this shit

  • kjgklfj kjgklfj says:

    9:38 big capricorn energy lmao

  • MonkeyMan says:

    Astrology is a scam that strokes everybody鈥檚 ego.

  • Roosje Keizer says:

    http://www.astrology-and-science.com/g-hist2.htm

  • Roosje Keizer says:

    For the reading astrologers here

    I had a collegue聽that was聽a Virgo聽and who while cleaning his clean plate and servers with a napkin before eating, told me that astrology was utterly nonsens. When I was new at the department, I asked him to help me to find my way, which he聽enjoyed doing聽and every time he corrected me, he apologized for being such a hair splitter. Reason why I asked him, and merely based on his sun sign.

  • Madina Korgan says:

    How about Carl Jungs investigation on astrology? How about asking about life spheres? To check the astrologer correctly , you shouldn`t lie. You should ask about the past. Ok, you don`t believe in predictions, but you are sure about your past. The truth is that people are choosing variation of a limited range, and that is why the astrologer could not object your "commitment" thing..This range has the variations where this option exists but it is certaintly a limited range of a certain sign. Or..maybe she could object but you just did not show the full meeting. Cause she defenately felt you are lying.

  • R么mulo Fi煤za e Mello says:

    In Brazil, Vice encourages and treats astrology as a real thing, despite all the criticism.

  • Jackson Strickland says:

    was that the song that plays at the end of the lets plays hahahahha

  • TylonTuber says:

    I for one don鈥檛 use astrology to predict the future but to further understand myself and others psychologically. People who actually educate themselves on it know that each planet, sign, etc. Has a meaning, and we make interpretations based off of those connections. It鈥檚 not fortune telling, it鈥檚 using the very things that keep us alive and in sync to further understand their connection to personalities

  • TylonTuber says:

    He literally sat there and lied to that lady about himself and he鈥檚 wondering why she got confused. CUZ ITS NOT IN HIS CHART! Is that not proof enough that there is truth to astrology

  • TylonTuber says:

    The misinformation in the comment section is KILLING ME!! Astrology is not predicting the future! Those are just people taking your money and people who believe in that don鈥檛 really understand astrology. Does it affect your body? Not that I know of. Astrology affects personalities! There鈥檚 way more to it than a sun sign. Do your research!

  • boson96 says:

    Astrologers are so cringy when they are feeding confirmation bias BS.
    7:29 "That's what I see in your charts" Fuck off!

  • kristal pitcher boy says:

    The host is almost identical to Charlie Chaplin in look. Wait, wait…but him and Charlie are not the same sign…. I see what it is…ok. They are both English, and likely this is what makes them look nearly identical =)

  • andacomfeeuvou says:

    Because it really works.

  • Elliott Hicks says:

    So you visited a bunch of western/tropical hacks, and this proves astrology is bunk? Did you have no plans to visit an ACTUAL astrologer?

  • Bail Bondsman says:

    I can answer that…bc most ppl are fucking retarded.

  • Micki King says:

    What s bogus jerk馃憥馃徏

  • creativus says:

    @Hagge Banke, congrats for putting the finalising comment for the last 2 years. I was thinking perhaps about the astrological meanings one shall check this information as well and found myself here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_and_tropical_astrology

  • Rida Ahmed says:

    Mumbo jumbo 馃槀馃槀

  • Patricia1234 says:

    VICE does some coverage of the news that is terrific. But it is so disappointing when this Gaven Haynes idiot decides to look for something to bash as if his smart ass attitude was the news. The astrologer there at Harrods told him right to his face that his smart ass comments put people off and she was 100% right. If VICE is interested in the news still, as opposed to going only for the money, they might want someone intelligent and respectful enough to find out what people get from these activities. His belittling of Indigo Children was also just as crappy and not journalism. A journalist does not have to believe in something to cover it responsibly. So if you could find someone who is more emotionally mature than a 14 year old to cover these topics, you might produce something watchable.

  • Kayla holmes says:

    Horoscopes is straight up demonic

  • Ben Bryan says:

    I also believe it is a tragedy that people would rather distract themselves with bullshit than learn to think rationally. The actual truth about the reality of the universe and our place in it, which we are now and will continue to make new discoveries in this respect,聽is far more fascinating than anything we could ever imagine, and that includes the thing that we imagined called astrology. Astrology was developed at a time when humans believed that they and this planet earth were the center of the universe. Astrology, just like religion, is a weak and way outdated attempt at explaining how and why we are here.

  • Shinrin Yoku says:

    Marry me, Gavin. I love that shade. 馃榾

  • Michael Chen says:

    single peoples seems like the easiest pray hahaha

  • AlarmClock says:

    Impossible contradicts itself 4 A Reason. Say I鈥檓-Possible

  • xXsknnylgndx x says:

    I mean if people lead their lives better and are happier because of their astrological charts, what鈥檚 really wrong with it? It鈥檚 sort of like a religion, but never has one leader started a war over a star sign 馃檪

  • TylonTuber says:

    These hoes out here mockin astrology because bullshit media like this video give a completely misguided interpretation of it. Little do they know that astrology is the oldest and most developed science that dates back to the beginning of mankind. More developed than any science or religion, but no we assume the extent of it is just that everyone is one of 12 vague personalities. Do your research. Don鈥檛 rely on some stupid VICE video with a 鈥渞eporter鈥 who is clearly biased from the get-go

  • Itzel Neptune says:

    Me and him would be compatible based on our charts. haha

  • Sana L says:

    Astrology has helped million of people to self-discovery. I dont think its working as a prediction tool. Its very much related to psychology.

  • RottenDoctorGonzo says:

    Meh.

  • RottenDoctorGonzo says:

    Meh.

  • Gobo Kinje says:

    I'm slightly concerned at the thought of someone hunting with an assault rifle XD

  • Cora Woolley says:

    Wow the comments here are wild.

  • brodamerons says:

    lol loooove when assholes like to shit on people鈥檚 beliefs and practices, that鈥檚 REALLY COOL!

  • satrio hapsoro says:

    i've been work in magazine & newspapers.. yes we made that up, just for fun, and people believe it .. i guess that was best jobs, have fun doing it & people like your job

  • FinallyFree says:

    Inform yourself before you mock something you don't understand.

  • fawk cku says:

    One thing I hate about the Astrology community is horoscopes imo. I can't deal with Horoscopes anymore, esp considering how contradicting they are

  • TylonTuber says:

    A lot of people are just pessimistic and believe that we鈥檙e all just specs floating on a rock in space with no connection to anything greater. It鈥檚 truly quite sad to see that there are people who put their lives on science when the sad truth is that the 鈥渇acts鈥 we say are true today will probably be proved wrong within the next few hundred years due to better technology. I don鈥檛 believe that we should just put all of our trust in physical things and conscious knowledge when we should be focusing on the mysteries of the subconscious mind and non-physical realm. Then, we鈥檇 probably actually get somewhere. Astrology and all other divinities are just ways to discover and study things that are greater than physical and material things. I don鈥檛 see the problem with it…

  • Trish's Travels says:

    At 10:40 – Hmm That's how Charlie Brown finally kicked the football … magic.

  • Charlotte Kym Tomlinson says:

    I have to say, I don鈥檛 attach definitive, unconditional belief to most things, but I do take interest in acquiring information, and there are some unlikely parallels between people鈥檚 natal charts and their actual personalities. I don鈥檛 believe it鈥檚 completely fair to dismiss it, because there is wisdom beyond what we know.

  • metalmichew2 says:

    Ill be honest, im a scorpio too and considering sex i have to say, the most explosive best and perfect sexual partner i had was pisces and that should be literally the ultimate sex partner for a scorpio! My best relationship was with a libra tho

  • Samantha Foster says:

    These people are quacks. Where did you dig them up? I would run if I met those people. Look if you do a documentary actually go interview people that have PhD's and are professionals. Every person you had on here are uneducated and opionated individuals.

  • Pearline_14 P says:

    Humans think we above the universe like don鈥檛 be dumb we鈥檙e literally NOTHING

  • Eat Pant 鈥 52 years ago says:

    Horoscopes are a load of horseshit.

  • Yvette j says:

    Because they want to believe theres more to life.

  • luv 4 animals Rescue says:

    Astrology is just a clock in the sky !!! When you use it as a clock you will learn something !!!

  • Hm Grraarrpffrzz says:

    People believe in it because they don't care about what is true or not, and because they don't want to take responsibility.

  • Phoenix says:

    Astrology = Bull-shit

  • Sawcon Deez nuts says:

    Whenever somebody tells me their zodiac sign like 鈥淚鈥檓 a scorpio鈥 I just google some other random sign like Sagittarius and say 鈥渟o would you describe yourself as (the description of the other zodiac sign I pulled up) and 9 times out of 10 they say 鈥渙mg yes that鈥檚 so me鈥 before I reveal that it was the description of Sagittarius

  • Emperor Scott Yee says:

    4:51 – He looks like the type…
    5:10 – I would get a reading from him for the entertainment…
    5:38 – It's because he poisoned her… But don't worry, you can still get a reading from him, just don't accept any tea and biscuits from him.
    Hail Satan!

  • Trent Trent says:

    Women are obsessed with it. Simple answer because they鈥檙e stupid.

  • Eugene the Philostopher says:

    Maybe because it has some things right? That moments in time are different, and it is related to the motion of celestial bodies.

  • Sunday says:

    鈥渕umbo jumbo鈥 馃榿

  • Hannah Abdul says:

    So I'm supposedly Scorpio Sun, Picses moon, Cancer rising and I'm supposedly getting along well with water and earth star signs but in reality I'm not! I have a disastrous relationships with Capricorns Taurus cancers! So this goes to show you astrology is BS:)

  • Lynn Marie says:

    I think it鈥檚 fun to think that maybe the way that the planets were aligned at the exact moment of our birth may affect who we are as people. I rarely read daily horoscopes cause I think they鈥檙e mostly vague and anyone could relate to them. I think astrology is fun, interesting even

  • Praise it! says:

    i could never fully respect an adult who believes in Astrology or Religion !
    sorry, not sorry

  • Alexander Mallon says:

    Too bad that the few comments below are made from those, who like the filmmaker himself … are Massively Ignorant of Fact – Astrology is FAR FAR more than ANY of you can even wrap your minds around ….. As an avid amateur astronomer and telescope builder of 50+ years … ASTROLOGICAL Parascience continues to amaze me.
    Genius has existed for quite a few more centuries than our Newtonian model of Physics- and its black and white model of how the world works- can reveal. … Consider Quantum Theory folks …. Now we're getting warmer.

    BTW, Newton himself became a fellow student of astrology in his attempt to debunk it !! ….. Ditto so for myself.

  • Abu Amaan Pal says:

    I'm a LEO. 鈾.

  • Gta Lover 2016 says:

    This is all like realigion a bunch of bull

  • Toni Ann Barandon says:

    Interesting, though, that the very first thing Gavin (who says he's a Scorpio) mentions, has to do with sex. That's a Scorpio for ya.

  • Rio Tesa says:

    Scientific arguments against https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ2eMUmumw0
    Scientific arguments in favor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B77f_8lQ1g

  • Suika Nine says:

    Why? Because the world is stupid.

  • Telemachos of Ithaca says:

    Poets say science takes away from the beauty of the stars- mere globs of gas atoms. I, too, can see the stars on a desert night, and feel them. But do I see less or more? -Richard Feynman

  • Richard Conner says:

    AFTER STUDYING FREUDIAN PSYCHOLOGY,JUNGIAN ARCHETYPES & NATIVE AMERICAN ANIMAL TOTEM,S,GIVEN BASED ON WHAT TIME OF THE YEAR ONE IS BORN.I HAVE CONCLUDED THAT ALL OF THESE HAVE A BIT PART OF TRUTH IN THEM.
    BUT HINDU & WESTERN ASTROLOGY DOES GIVE A BETTER OVERALL VIEW OF HOW THE UNIVERSES ENERGIES ACT AS A POWERFUL INFLUENCE SHAPING YOUR PERSONAL STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES.
    DOES THE MOON INFLUENCE SOME PEOPLES EMOTIONAL STATE.?HOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN NORTHERN LATITUDES,DO THEY HAVE A GREATER ADDICTION TO DRUGS & ALCOHOL,OR LESS DURING THE WINTER MONTHS.?
    SO THE ENERGIES FROM OUR ENVIRONMENT CAN INFLUENCE OUR PSYCHE.
    THAT MEANS THAT MORE SUBTLE VIBRATIONAL FREQUENCIES FROM THE UNIVERSE CAN INFLUENCE YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS MIND-CHAKRAS.

  • Thomas Megabezemboy says:

    Jesus, even if this dude was stating the most obvious of facts, he'd still seem like a smug soy nerd. Horrible.

  • allan bujanda says:

    Lol assault rifle hunting and DMT

  • T Brenneman says:

    I like how he goes to one (1) astrologer and deduces that combining therapy and astrology is a bad idea. Great science, VICE. I thought journalism was supposed to be neutral and not a couple shoddy wanna-be scientists conducting incomplete and biased research. If you deny astrology, you would also have to deny the ocean tides and never drink water so as to be unaffected by the neighboring moon and planets鈥 gravity (but at zero percent water you would be dead, hence, a single astrological chart only affects us until the day we die. For those who know reincarnation: a new chart is issued for you when your soul is reborn.)

  • Alexander Mallon says:

    As per the 鈥淪tarbaby Scandle w CSICOP and the cabal of eminent scientists led especially by Astronomer George Abel, there HAS been an ongoing massive effort on the part of Abel et al to tell a false and 鈥榗riminal鈥 tale against Astrology …. to debunk it at ALL Costs no matter what it takes.

    ~I liken this effort to the 2019 Rise-yet-Again of the Political Right to eviscerate Roe v Wade !!!! ….. Certain people have an agenda-at-all costs !!

    1- Abel made it certain that his friends in publishing ONLY publish early results of the Gaugelin studies which statistically DISPROVED Astrology

    2- Later when the Gaugelin study PROVED this Mars/Jupiter/Saturn Effect, Abel (and CSICOP) personally and intentionally corrupted and falsified statistical data to FORCE the Gaugelin data to fail when independently re-tested.

    This cover-up caused massive internal explosions within the scientific community of CSICOP wherein co-founder Dennis Rawlins objected to Abel et al executing this cover up !!!! In paraphrasing Raulins, he felt it was an abomination against True science to falsify data and destroy scientific evidence and information/ideas that did not flow with the idea systems of Abel and his cabal!

    What happened next was that Rawlins professional career was blackballed and smeared鈥 Abel/ CSICOP did their best to DESTROY Rawlings, even though Rawlins remained no 鈥榝an of astrology鈥 by his own admission!

    3- Your article particles re the Gaugelin Data …. are debatable, given the ACTIVE disinformation campaign by CSICOP.

    4- Your response also in No Way addresses the careers of Michel and Francoise Gaugelin!!!

    This husband and wife team were preeminent scientists who began their exploration of astrology as vehement of objectors. Planning to once and for all kill this idea scientifically about astrology having any truth, they subsequently themselves dedicated the remainder of their careers as Professional Astrologers.

    While their career choices neither approved or disapproved astrology as a system, The fact of the last 40 years of their career investment always and forever goes on addressed by the scientific community! Their 鈥榗onversion鈥 from hardened Skeptics of astrology and then becoming World leaders of the study of astrology is certainly a most interesting historical fact to be discussed.

    5- You and people like you continually say there is no scientific evidence that supports astrologer鈥檚 existence鈥 Yet astrology has existed since the dawn of time as the observation of natural world cycles And their correlations.

    6-you and people like you speak as though 550 years of modern science has wrapped up all the studies鈥 As if we have learned everything there is to learn about the phenomenal world!

    –That idea is absolutely absurd and preposterous!

    -We have only had 550 years of modern science to explore the natural world鈥 Much continues to be discovered, Including the forces of physics as we understand them

  • Alexander Mallon says:

    Furthermore and likely my last waste of my time in addressing the ignorant detractors posting on this forum, 鈥 Don鈥檛 you think yourselves foolish and even stupid to rage against and publicly speak against Astrology !!!! A topic of which you know absolutely ZERO/nothing about!!
    I do find it maddening infuriating and disgusting that I continue to have conversations with ignorant people who show themselves to be Small-minded fools who argue with me about the topic of astrology while knowing nothing whatsoever-not one scintilla of knowledge- about the topic they rage against!!

    >>> Before the age of 15 I had the same 鈥榮heeple mentality鈥 as all amateur astronomers do. I鈥檇 scream against astrology鈥 But then it occurred to me to educate myself to argue more effectively against it 鈥榮uch a stupid thing Astrology Signs 鈥!

    As the Gaugelins themselves found, my OPEN- minded investigations proved ME WRONG…!
    And so I can say to all of you who rage against this topic of astrology鈥 Have at least enough courage to be open minded and explore !!!

    How IGNORANT, small-minded and downright childish for you all to continue to argue against something you know absolutely ZERO about!!

  • ItsJustMilo says:

    astrology is fucking retarded. If astrology were a kid it would be the one that ate grass until he was 8. And if you believe in astrology then you are exceedingly gullible and dumb. Very very dumb

  • Kanav Uvach says:

    Whether science or spirituality both are part of study .This universe is so vast and everything is possible in this, ofcourse astrology is also a part of study and beliefs.

  • Andrea Land铆nez says:

    Astrology might be BS .. being condescending with the interviewed IS BS

  • Tavoloco says:

    IMAGINE RELIGION…

  • Tavoloco says:

    TRUST ME, JUPITER DOES NOT GIVE A SPACE FUCK ABOUT YOUR LIFE!

  • Chloe Zara says:

    'im a scorpio' '2 seconds later 'astrology has been helping us figure out who we should be having sex with' OFCOURSE U WOULD SAY THAT COS UR A SCORPIO. I REST MY CASE ASTROLOGY IS REAL GOODNIGHT

  • gregory brian says:

    This is quite a shallow review of astrology. There's not one exact philosophy of how it works.

    I'm one of those odd types who is both a skeptic of everything and also curious about everything and willing to give most things a go. My belief about astrology in terms of personalities is that planets and heavenly bodies do not influence a person's personality. It's that they serve as mechanisms that comprise a universal "clock." At the moment and place you are born, all planets are in a particular configuration (as they are at THIS moment) and they are a reference to something that is inexplicable, much like dark matter is not observable but we know that it exists because of OTHER things. Think of it this way: if you get hungry at 2:05 p.m. GMT tomorrow, the clock that displays 2:05 p.m. is not making you hungry; it's just a chronological reference point.

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