Wind Wise Tips for Flying Airplanes — AviatorCast 132

Wind Wise Tips for Flying Airplanes — AviatorCast 132

On this episode of AviatorCast, Wind Wise
Tips for Flying Airplanes. Welcome, aviators, to another episode of AviatorCast. Load up your flight bag with useful flight
training topics, interviews, and aviation passion. Let’s kick the tires and light the fires. Coming to you from Angle of Attack Headquarters
in Homer, Alaska. Here’s your host and flight instructor, Chris
Palmer. Welcome, aviators, to another episode of AviatorCast. My name’s Chris Palmer. It’s great to have you here for another subject,
something I hope that you find useful. So I’ve kind of been doing some more mindset
podcasts recently with don’t quit flight training. Some of the things that could help you in
your training, like the process of private pilot instrument, commercial CFI. I did a podcast on each one of those licenses,
kind of how to avoid burnout and how to build your structure. But I’ve also wanted to get into some of the
more nitty gritty, just learn something type of episodes. So I’m going to be doing some more of those
as well. So I want to talk today about wind wise tips
for flying airplanes. Just this thought of viewing wind holistically
in the flight environment because it’s something that a lot of people don’t pay attention to
or think about as they are doing their flying. And it’s super important and comes up in a
lot of different ways, especially during takeoff and landing, but can also come up in mountain
flying. You see it when you’re doing your ground reference
maneuvers. Ground reference maneuvers are basically a
way of correcting for the wind. That’s why they exist. They know you can fly the airplane in different
ways. They just want to see that you know how to
correct for the wind while you’re flying. So in this podcast we will look at what wind
is, dispelling myths and defining wind. That’s kind of an interesting subject. Seeing the wind through indicators and in
visualizations. I think you guys will find some great tips
there as well. Feeling the wind by applying visualizations
to actually controlling the airplane. So taking what we’ve seen and actually doing
something about it. And then we’ll break down the wind in different
phases of flight from taxi all the way through up and down to a landing and what we are looking
for. All right? So let’s dive right in. So what is wind? So a lot of the times when we’re thinking
of wind, especially when we’re planted with our feet on the ground on a gusty day, we
feel when pushing against us. Some of us might’ve even been in storms strong
enough to lean against the wind and feel that push of the wind against us. We might even feel it at our back where it’s
pulling us or we kind of feel that resistance of the wind. However, in an airplane, it’s a lot different. Once we’re in the air, the air is a body of,
or a mass of air, that’s simply moving. So it’s almost like a cube of air. If you can imagine that your airplane is just
frozen in the middle of this ice cube of air and it’s just being moved along as part of
this weather system, that’s really what is happening. The airplane doesn’t know that it’s windy,
okay? At least not when it’s not on the ground,
but it’s in the air. It’s just along for the ride. So there’s a good analogy about this in the
book called Stick and Rudder. And when I read this, it just blew my mind
that I’d always been looking at wind in this sense of push and pull. And we’ll talk about that a little bit later
because there are some situations where we want to be thinking of it in that way, but
when we’re in the air, we need to be thinking as if we’re almost on this train, if you’ve
ever been on a train before, okay? So we’re on a train and we know that we’re
moving along the track, but we are not feeling any resistance. We don’t feel the wind resistance of what’s
happening. We can go forward, we can come back, we can
sit down, we can go side to side, but we don’t feel any resistance, but we’re still moving
within that space. That’s essentially what’s exactly going on
in the air as well. We have this air mass that’s moving along
and our airplane is in that air mass, okay? Even though we’re pointing in one direction
and going, we’re actually moving along with that air mass a little bit as we’re going. So if we have a headwind, well … And we’re
not moving along as fast as we want to. It’s not because we’re actually getting pushed,
it’s because that air mass is moving the opposite direction we’re moving and so we’re not making
the progress as well. If we have a tailwind and we’re moving down,
well that’s because that air mass is moving with us and we’re getting there faster, we’re
getting a little extra … How would I phrase this correctly? We’re getting a little extra bonus. And I don’t want to say push, I don’t want
to say speed because really we’re just moving along with that air mass as it moves us along. So that kind of dispels the myth of the push
and pull that we usually feel on the ground in that we’re just kind of along for the ride
when we’re up in the air. We don’t have that friction on the ground,
that resistance that has us planted. We’re just moving along with it. Now, of course, to counteract that, we can
do certain things and we’ll talk about more of those methods later on, but we’re just
along for the ride in the air, in this cube of air, okay? So that is wind. That’s seeing the wind and understanding holistically
what’s actually happening. Kind of thinking of things in more of a cruise
phase of flight as we’re moving along, how that’s working. So that’s the big picture of how wind actually
works. Now, of course, we want to be able to define
… not define the wind, but we want to be able to see the wind as well. Seeing and visualizing, I think, are two different
things. Seeing is directly seeing, which, of course,
we know the air, for the most part, is invisible. And then visualizing is knowing it’s invisible,
but imagining where the air is actually moving. So we’ll separate the two and talk about it. But I want to talk about some of the things
that we can actually look at to determine the wind. And then some of the things we can do to visualize
the wind. So this is all seeing the wind. So we have our official wind indicators. We have when socks, which I did a One Minute
Wings episode on this recently. You can actually tell how fast the wind is
going or the velocity of the wind by looking at the windsock. It’s in different stages, usually increments
of three knots if I remember correctly. And you can see it in different stages. So you can actually look at a windsock and
how well it’s extended and know how stiff the wind is. So we have windsocks as an official indicator. We have a tetrahedron, which is actually kind
of an airplane looking thing with a tail and everything. And we have a wind triangle, which more points
toward the wind. So wind triangle. And then around that is the segmented circle. And that’ll actually show you from above. It shows you what direction the pattern would
be. So if you had no charts or no nothing else,
you could fly over an airport, assuming it had a segmented circle, and see which pattern
entry and everything you should do or which direction the pattern should be for different
runways. Of course, I think windsocks are one of those
things that we don’t see a lot. We end up … And this is the next tip, we
end up getting the weather on the radio. Say that’s through the ASOS, or AWOS, or the
ATIS, or the AFIS. We get that whether, we hear it over the radio,
we just go by that wind direction. But I think a lot of the times we fail to
actually just look at the windsock as we’re taxiing out or look at the windsock as we’re
landing. It’s kind of a final verification of the angle
where it’s at. And I think by doing that, we start to get
more into the visualization of the wind and actually seeing, based on the runway, how
strong is it and what angle is it coming at to the runway. Seeing it is really believing in this case
and while we can determine with the automated system, we’re seeing the sock that we are
going to take the right runway and do a take off with a headwind, landing with a headwind. I’m talking about the importance of that here
in a few minutes. While we can determine it early to kind of
determine which runway we’re going to use, it’s a whole different thing to actually look
at the windsock. So that’s what gets us into visualizations
where that’s an official way with the wind indicator to look at the windsock and see
what the direction is. But a lot of tools that we use here in Alaska
just because there’s a lot of off airport flying and flying in areas, especially the
mountains, where it’s good to see how other features are reacting to the wind. Of course, we don’t just have windsocks speckled
throughout all of eternity here on Earth. We need to be able to look at things like
trees and know how much the wind is blowing based on that. Water, how much the wind is blowing based
on that. There’s a whole science … Not science, but
there’s a whole method behind reading water. I haven’t really learned it deeply yet, but
someone was talking about it recently, how things are white capping on the water, how
fast the wind is going, the velocity of the wind, based on what the white caps look like. So I thought that was interesting. But even seeing the water on a lake, for example. Just as an example, if you fly up to a lake
and you’re looking down on it, there should be a protected side of the lake, especially
if there are trees around the lake. If there are just bushes, there’s still going
to be a protected side, but it might be a little thinner. But what you’ll see is that the wind is really
calm on one shoreline and then you’ll see the ripples in the water separately. But the wind will be really calm on one shoreline
and that tells you the exact distance or the exact direction that the wind is coming from. Because basically the trees or the bushes
are blocking that wind. So the wind comes over and then it’ll finally
hit the water several feet ahead, or many feet ahead depending on the obstacle, and
then you’ll see it. But you can tell the wind based on that. Sea plane pilots, they know that in the water
there’s these white streams. I’m not even sure what they’re really called,
but there’s these white stripes that almost go directly with the wind that tend to happen
quite a bit in bodies of water, especially lakes, I’ve noticed. So trees, and water, and features in the water,
blowing snow or dust, you can tell which direction the wind. Smoke from a chimney top. I don’t even have that on my list here, but
smoke from a chimney top. All of this becomes really important when
you’re out flying either in the mountains or flying remotely and you need some other
wind indicators that are helping you determine where the wind is from. And the reason why that ends up becoming really
important with visualizing … So again, imagining where that wind is coming from is because
in the mountains things move like water through a stream. You guys may have heard me say this before,
many instructors do. It’s the one analogy we use to show or visualize
how air is moving through the mountains. So if you can imagine water or rapids moving
through a stream or a river, you can get a little babbling brook. That’s just a little bit of movement here
and there, and it’s not moving very fast, and you’re not seeing any rapids or any little
whitewater. It’s just kind of moving along, moving around
things, and then moving all the way up into a huge river that is causing gigantic rapids,
and billowing up over boulders, and creating pools of eddies and … What would you call
them? What would it be in the water? Anyway, almost like a tornado. I forgot what that’s called in the water. Gosh, what is it called? Anyway, so all of these different things that
can happen in the water to make it turbulent, okay? So if you take that visualization and then
you use it … Instead, you use mountains and you see, okay though if it’s moving fast,
it’s moving over this peak and going down, that’s going to create a downdraft on the
leeward side. And then it’s going to go up slope and there’s
going to be a wind, an up draft on the windward side. You can start to visualize how and where you
should fly the airplane, where it’s maybe going to be a little bit more dangerous to
fly through the mountains, and feel that out in that way. We also get into things like thermals. So thermals is the convective heat of air,
which is basically air moving upward. And that’s creating lift from the thermals. So there are really good examples of all this
in the PHAK, the Pilot’s Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge. It’s just free online. It’s an FAA document. Kind of like a free textbook. But I remember they have a picture in there
of an airplane approaching for a landing. And they have a big parking lot where there’s
a shopping center or something and that warm concrete from the sun can create a thermal,
can create a little bit of lift. So you might get a bump up from that, but
then you’d go over a lake that’s between that and the runway. That lake is going to create a little sink
because it’s cooler air and so you’ll sink there. And then you might get a little bit more of
a lift as you get toward the runway as you’re getting over warmer land. So visualizing how all this stuff is moving,
whether you’re in the mountains or you’re locally is really, really important. Now not all of you are going to be doing mountain
flying, but all of you are going to be flying at an airport at some time or another. And this visualization of wins, I have found,
is actually very, very helpful when it comes to airports. When it comes to takeoffs and landings, particularly
where we have big buildings that are there. We have maybe even some hills, or some little
dips, or some valleys, or rivers that are lower than the airport, or trees where things
can move in and around as well in the airport environment that in the critical phase of
flight when you’re slow and climbing out or your slow and landing when you don’t have
a lot of extra energy can cause issues. Now if properly planned for, they end up usually
not becoming an issue as long as you’re not doing something reckless, but you need to
be visualizing. Everyone needs to be visualizing how air is
moving in and around airports as well. At our airport we have one half of the runway
that has most of the hangar buildings there and it has a lot of the trees that are closer. Just off the side of that is the ocean. And so what happens is we get a lot of wind
that’s spilling up over the trees, mixing with all the hangers and trees, and then coming
down and spilling onto the runway. So it’s almost like the wind rushing off the
ocean jumps over the little hill we have there and then spills down on top of the runway,
plus creating a bunch of turbulence right there. So in really heavy cross winds or winds, I
have found that the best thing to do is actually land halfway down the runway. While it’s perfectly possible to land in the
first half, I just make it easier on myself. I just play it cool and go down the runway
a little bit more or there’s not the opportunity for that air to be mixed up as much. And it’s amazing just a couple hundred yards
or a couple hundred feet the difference that it makes in the landing quality and the feel
of it. So I just want to bring all that up. We’ll bring that up a little bit more here
in when we talk about some other things, okay? So that’s visualizing the wind. That kind of sets the stage. I need to move a little bit quicker here to
meet our half hour mark. So feeling the wind. You guys have probably heard of crabbing before. If you haven’t, crabbing is when we’re moving
with that massive air, right? But what we want to do is we want our ground
track, so where we’re at on the ground, to be going on a certain path. So while we may be moving with that massive
air, imagine a little pencil sticking down through the airplane and you’re going to draw
that path with your airplane right where you need to go. Well that means that we’re going to have to
turn into the wind a little bit and fly into the wind if we want to keep a track or whatever
it is. That’s crabbing into the wind is when we’re
flying into the wind a little bit to go a specific direction. Ends up being a big thing when you’re doing
your crosswind landings and take offs and you’re going to hear crab quite a bit. It’s one of the main things we use in aviation,
the terms when we’re correcting for the winds on our actual path versus our heading. So our heading might be 180, but because the
wind is blowing from 270, we actually have to fly more like 200 to keep that 180 heading. I don’t know if that makes sense to you guys,
but anyway, we have to turn into the wind to fly that direction, okay? So that’s actually feeling the wind. So controlling for the wind. I’m just going to kind of rattle some of these
off. Things for you guys to think about because
it’s actually quite a long list of things here. So controlling through the wind or with the
wind. Now that we have an actual definition of what
the wind is and that we actually need to control the airplane to do things to get through it,
we are ultimately in control of much of what we do. Wind can get to the point where you just can’t
control the airplane anymore if the crosswinds are too strong or the winds can just be too
strong. I mean, can you imagine flying an airplane
in a hurricane? Not going to happen. There are just some points where the wind
is too strong, and you shouldn’t be flying, and you shouldn’t really even be taxiing the
airplane. Okay, so I’m going to start from taxi and
I’m going to go all the way through to take off, climb, cruise, descent, landing, all
of those things and talk about some things to think about. So in the taxi we have control deflections
that we use to make sure that we’re turning into the wind so that the wind doesn’t catch
our wing and push us over. Or it can actually pick our tail up and push
us forward or it can pick our nose up. It can do all sorts of things. It becomes especially important when you’re
in a tailwheel airplane because they’re a little more susceptible to some of those movements. But there can be a point where taxiing in
the wind becomes … the wind becomes too strong for your ability to counteract it. And basically the gouge that is used is you
turn into the wind. So turn your stick or your yoke into the wind,
you dive away from the wind if it’s a tailwind, and you climb into the wind if it’s a headwind. Now if you have a right quartering tailwind,
for example, you would dive away and you would turn into the wind, okay? So anyway, there’s a bunch of different combinations
that you use as well. If it’s a quartering wind, or a crosswind,
or a tailwind, or a headwind and you’ll learn about those as you go through or you can recommit
yourself to actually doing that. All right, so take off. So we take off into the wind for performance
reasons. Now this is more of an application to the
you standing on the ground sort of thing and getting pushed. So we did have a little bit of friction here
where actually that wind rushing past our wing is going to create extra lift for us,
or at least our ground roll and help us out. So a lot of it has to do with kinetic energy
and how fast you’re moving across the ground. So if we take off into the wind, well we get
that extra performance, we take off sooner, we climb sooner, all those things. There are some exceptions, but for the most
part we usually take off into the wind 99, 95% of the time. Okay, visualize the airport environment for
your takeoff, how things are going to work with those trees, those buildings, all those
things. Crosswind aileron deflection. This is something that’s missed a lot in nosewheel
airplanes because this is something you have to do in a tailwheel airplane is you basically
fly into the wind. You turn into the wind to keep the wind from
skipping you across the runway. And if you do it correctly, you really, you’re
flying almost the entire take off, especially in a crosswind. You’re flying the entire takeoff. Finding the sweet spot where the wind isn’t
pushing you to the side and kind of skipping your tires. And then when you lift off, you’re kind of
releasing those control deflections to then crab into the wind. And now you are going to track centerline
as you climb out in the takeoff. So those are the big things for takeoff is
crosswind deflection, aileron deflection, crabbing into the wind after you lift off,
using your rudder to counteract for some of those movements as your nose pops off. There are things that, especially at the left
turning tendencies, that you need to do with your pedals to make sure that you’re staying
coordinated through that entire process and giving yourself the best performance and chance. You’ll just have to see those in the airplane. All right, climb. So now you’re in that cube of air, okay? So now that air movement and everything is
as if you’re moving along with it. So there’s real no performance gain now with
the headwind. We’re actually, we’re trying to go somewhere. So if we have a tailwind and we’re climbing,
it’s not as such a big deal. We’re just going with it. What really matters is how that wind is pushing
you navigation wise. So laterally, how it’s pushing you and you
correcting for the wind. Those wind corrections can be done with dead
reckoning when you’re doing your flight planning. If you’re doing flight planning with something
like ForeFlight, it’ll actually take into account all the winds aloft data for your
particular flight plan and give you the right headings to fly for those wind correction
angles, okay? So cruise, that big picture thinking of winds
aloft, I think we need to think critically with winds in the cruise. This actually goes back a little bit to pre-fight
planning where we think about our altitude selection. If the headwinds are less, 3000 feet lower,
and we’re not going to get a big performance, 4000 or whatever, we’re not going to get a
big performance hit by flying lower or flying higher. We just want to select our best situation. If we can get up to where we have a great
tailwind and there’s some sort of wind shift there that we just get to cruise along and
go super fast, that sounds great to me. If there’s some headwinds that we want to
avoid at a certain altitude, we can think of that as well. You can get really big picture with course
selection because these air masses, high pressure and low pressure systems, they rotate. Let’s see, high pressure rotates to the right
and low pressure to the left. Anyway, I’d have to look at a map and then
I’d know. But they rotate a certain way. So if you’re going to fly a really long cross
country, probably in a fairly more high performance, fast moving airplane. Sometimes it’s actually faster to go around
and get the tailwind, go around the entire system and get the tailwind and take the penalty
of distance, but actually you’re saving up for it in time. So you can think of wind that way as well
as a tool on a much larger scale of the natural weather system. High pressure or low pressure or however that
wind is moving. Mountain flying, the stream analogy, which
I already shared. Be diligent, get your training in mountain
flying, and it’s really about the unseen. Visualizing, using those things as a tool,
avoiding the things that could get you in trouble. And that’s mountain flying for you. That could be a whole different podcast. So the approach is you’re planning ahead of
different sources. Obviously getting that automated weather ahead
of time, find out what runway you’re using, that’s going to help you with your traffic
pattern entry and everything. You can anticipate those ground speeds, those
turns, those crab angles you’re going to have to use. So what I see a lot is pilots, when they … The
perfect example is when someone’s turning from base to final and there’s a wind, say
a crosswind, and they don’t turn all the way back into the wind to crab into it and then
we just end up getting blown off or they don’t stop their turn early to keep that crab. So it’s all about anticipating where you’re
heading is going to be to kind of stop there and have a good crab angle to keep that ground
track that we talked about, that drawing with a pencil right underneath you. That’s important. Again, visualize the airport environment. That’s really important. And visualizing how things are moving around
that. Now I think this is really important to point
out because a lot of the times as you grow and experience, especially you’re going to
be flying in the places that you don’t know, and you read almost number one. The thing you need to be thinking about in
the pattern is how things are going to move. Actually investigate the ground and the buildings
and everything. If there’s some source you can use ahead of
time to do that, that’s pretty helpful. But there are some airports that can get pretty
tight and crazy if you’re not careful with how the wind is moving around. So again, having some sort of exercise or
methodology, some visualization to know how the wind is moving throughout the airport,
and the environment, and the different spots you may be landing on the runway, et cetera. Okay? So that’s the approach. Now talking about the landing. Specifically landing into the wind is something
that we do. Kind of depends on the slope of the runway,
but that’s … most runaways are fairly flat. In other words, sometimes you take the tailwind
penalty and you’ll go downhill, as an example, because going uphill on the takeoff or the
landing … going downhill on the landing, in this particular case, would give you a
big penalty. So taking a tailwind on the uphill would be
a better choice in some situations. So in other words, we have a headwind because
we have less forward energy when we actually land, we can stop faster that way, we won’t
burn up a ton of runway as we’re landing. And tailwinds can be a big problem on that. We actually had a fairly prominent accident
here recently in Alaska where the pilots, for whatever reason, picked a runway with
the wrong wind that they shouldn’t have. This was a passenger aircraft and they deliberately
picked a runway that had pretty good tailwinds. And they went off the end of the runway and
someone lost their life in that accident. So yeah, I mean, they … It would have been
a whole different story if they would’ve just landed into the wind. Would have been a nonissue. So it is a big deal. So again, anticipate those air movements. You’ve already done an exercise of visualizing
where everything is. Know how your aircraft acts with the wind
in each different configuration. So for example, a lot of the times I’m landing
and gusty winds, especially crosswinds, I won’t do full flaps because a gust of wind
suddenly can give you an extra bit of performance with a lot of flaps and cause you to bubble
up. And then that messes with my ability to be
able to hit a spot on my landing. So you really have to know how your airplane
is flying in different conditions in the wind, at different speed configurations, or angles,
or flap settings, whatever it is. Okay? Winds, I like to teach kind of a hands off
approach to landing because if you trim everything up and you get it nice and set up, really,
the airplane can kind of fly itself down to a landing. But when you’re dealing with winds, especially
crosswinds or gusty winds, you really do have to be more active on the controls and you’re
going to be controlling the airplane more. That’s just the way it is. So be ready to be more active in that, and
more deliberate, and decisive. And what else can I say? Authoritative on you getting to pick where
the airplane goes, regardless of what the winds are doing. Sometimes that means it might be working the
power more. You might be working the flight controls more. Don’t go crazy about it. Less is always more, but don’t be scared of
being the boss and telling your airplane what to do in order to get through some of these
more turbulent situations on landing. All right. Know your crosswind landings. That’s an entirely different subject. But take the opportunity to go out and practice
it with an instructor and learn. Don’t be afraid of it. Eventually you’re going to be able to get
used to it and almost every landing is a crosswind landing. If you think about it, there’s some sort of
crosswind going on, so just get used to it. Obviously, you know that there’s going to
be a limit there to how much crosswinds you can use. And just think about that and be willing to
go out and learn it. And then in terms of touching down and in
the flare, those last few seconds before you touch down, the airplane can do a lot of funny
things at that point. It’s really slow. It has the tendency to weathervane. There’s not a lot of forward energy left in
the airplane, so you can get some funny things happening with wind picking up a wing or pushing
the tail if you’re in a tailwheel. So just be ready in those instances to be
using the rudder more is what it dials down to. Again, there’s a whole list of different situations
there. You can get really in depth talk about what
the wind does and how to counteract for it, but just know that the wind is going to act
a little bit different or feel like it’s acting different when you’re in that flare and touchdown
mode. And then even transitioning to do the rollout. You’re going to want to roll the ailerons
into the wind too if you’re in a crosswind, for example. So lots of different things. Then you’re going back into those taxi disciplines
that we started out with. So I hope that was helpful for you in this
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  • Loup City Air Service says:

    Ok counter clockwise low clockwise high. But in Centeral USA fly high east and low west

  • Loup City Air Service says:


  • dagwoodj says:

    Is this podcast not on stitcher anymore?

  • Loup City Air Service says:

    I like your passion to teach Aviation but this was painful to watch you didn’t take time to go over your material I didn’t feel. I felt you just winged this . I was hoping you would cover how to read the wind in trees , crops and water . Air is a fluid and a airplane might move with it but it is never frozen like inside a ice cube. Air twist and turns as it makes its way across the ground or through the sky . Different temperatures of air can have different movements. As the sun ☀️ sets the air will cool and become heavier this will make it cling to surface objects and slow down and the air just 500 ft high can be traveling 30kts . You can do better

  • Brian Petrow says:

    Transition is my Achilles right now…mostly due to lack of repetition. ugh….weather isn't helping….thanks Chris!

  • Seton Richard says:

    Another great podcast. Thanks.
    A tip for students when dealing with swirly, squirrelly wind on final, is to ask 'Am I flying this airplane? I.E. am I the Pilot In control ? Or are you a passenger?

  • Bud owens says:

    Love you man, but , this 1 was a bit boring, had a hard time listening.

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